Originally Posted by Bankai

I can't wait to find out who's Mhenlo's girlfriend this time.

Maybe the dervish hero? Would be fun, since she had something with Koss probably.

Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

Mhenlo's new haremgirl will be Varesh, the girl on the cover of NF. After we find out that she is actually evil, Mhenlo stands up to us and defends her honor. Then we get to the long awaited Whack-A-Mhenlo-part.

Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens

No...Cultist henchies steal my corpses!! They do stuff like Putrid Explosion at the worst damned times. Like when I'm casting Well of Blood to save everyone's butts or when I want to make Minions for the baddies to ravage while I cast Hexes on them.

Originally Posted by Riesz

and monks get unique emotes unused by any other class while 4 other classes (soon to be 6) share the same emotes. no fair!

Originally Posted by CKaz

Actually I'd go farther than that, one time I was busy and stepped away - I can't recall if I just waited at the beginning or at the gate for them to catch up (and clear all the level 1-2 non-aggro mantis they feel they had to fight), and of course the level 20 Togo and umm... that level 10? guy did there thing.

So I come back.. that level 10 is around, but Togo is DEAD. Something KILLED him. I have no freaking idea what and could never reproduce it or quite frankly even guess - a level 20 monk of ridiculous status. /shrug

But yeah all these goofballs get old, I thought so at the end of Factions - I get why the Luxons and Kurzicks are there but hearing the same kinda of prattle from the Ascalon core - I suppose as we have core classes, core skills, we also have core pains in the ... err NPCs.

And they'll even be that much worse/much less a factor as Nightfall HEROES totally supplant them. That's one reason I was hoping either a) I could use my own characters in such a manner b) they'd let us create our owns c) they'd let us chose from a [much] larger pool, arguably even the chapter flavor standouts (Nightfall unlocks chapter heroes) - ie you can enlist say a bored Danika striking out or you just decided you need Cynn, but this time she's USEFUL as you can keep her AOE/mob fleeing in check.

But not as henchy in some spots, but the heroes themselves.
Maybe future chapters then but quite frankly a pool of 12 from Nightfall across 10 classes? I'd guess at least the new classes would show up going forward - I'm just not sure of the way they did it. One choice may preclude another? More options/configurable/personal would have been better IMO.

And yay all my chars work with the same pool - that's a lot of Koss and Co.
In some ways I'd say hey, if Mhenlo is still around alright, but maybe toss him into the Hero pool at this point rather than the continued story runner, 'Mhenlo must survive', henchmen choice etc etc. As much as I agree with some of the dis, I'd much rather have him as a choice rather than some no-name Nightfall monk washout I'll now be saddled with repeatedly and indefinately. My monk, one of the NPC monks I've come across before, even one I could newly create to be that players hero >> that.

But that's only cosmetic and I'm looking forward to the functionality. Heroes have it so much more over anything else tho now - even your new, and arguably even over most if not all of your old, characters. The NPC whining wannabees we all know and like/love/hate/despise will simply even be that much more backseat chatter annoyances - story conveyance only, really. The heroes of old can only take a backseat to the hero system of new, and there's only a small pool to be had.

In some cases maybe borrowing as I suggested (rangers from Cantha I think I saw) but still IMO it didn't go far and deep enough. So seeing and using the same heroes over and over again across your chars and friends is meh (the 'copy' implementation strikes me as more than a bit lame lol) but I'm too jazzed about the gameplay to worry about it much yet. Just doesn't help shelf-life of their enjoyment, we'll find out how much it hurts it.

Originally Posted by Helcaraxe

tbh, I despise the concept of Nightfall. In prohpecies you started as a common soldier fresh from your village who just happened to gain the ear of the prince. When hte hist hits the fan the unlikely hero (player character) steps up to the plate to meet the challenge. And no one was playing to second fiddle to anyone else, you are all even against one common foe. even though that foe seems to change all the time (plot twists ftw) Awesome perspective there.

Factions, storyline just plain sucked... I agree with everyone in the thread who said something along the lines of "I want to be the hero dammit!"

Nightfall, you start out as a commander, you know everything, all the npc's take your orders. WTF! Seems like an over-correction here. Heroes will just be splitting the focus of the player (and discouraging group play, but thats for a different topic). Also, flaming will increase (My Koss is better you noob, my koss has 1337 skillz, my Koss has a complete set of victo's stuff! My koss is rank 12). I just don't liek the perspective of it. I would much rather be the common soldier who works his way to the top than BAM! You're a commander. For this reason alone, I will not be purchasing Nightfall, and I hope Anet reads this -_- doubtful, but I can hope

Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens

No...Cultist henchies steal my corpses!! They do stuff like Putrid Explosion at the worst damned times. Like when I'm casting Well of Blood to save everyone's butts or when I want to make Minions for the baddies to ravage while I cast Hexes on them.

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Speaking of which, will Cynn have a voice actor?

Originally Posted by Gordon Ecker

I think she should have the same voice actor they had for Danika. Sure, that valley girl voice was completely inappropriate for Danika, but it would be perfect for Cynn.

Originally Posted by Gordon Ecker

We'll find out next week. I think she should have the same voice actor they had for Danika. Sure, that valley girl voice was completely inappropriate for Danika, but it would be perfect for Cynn.